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happening here is that, you know, as we said in the editorial as doug mentioned, while senators graham, ayotte and mccain are focused on what susan rice, ambassador rice said on the sunday talk shows, they are not asking any questions at all about the real questions about security there at the consulate in benghazi. that's where their interest and focus and ire should be pointed. not at a u.n. ambassador who went on the sunday talk shows as a spokesperson for the administration giving, imparting the information she was given by the intelligence community. >> and susan, for those just joining us. this happened moments ago in the last hour. i want to remind everyone what the three senators had to say. take a look. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before that the 16 september explanation about how four americans died in benghazi, libya, by ambassador rice, i think, does not do justice to the reality at the time. >> clearly the impression that was given, the information given to the am
happening here is that, you know, as we said in the editorial as doug mentioned, while senators graham, ayotte and mccain are focused on what susan rice, ambassador rice said on the sunday talk shows, they are not asking any questions at all about the real questions about security there at the consulate in benghazi. that's where their interest and focus and ire should be pointed. not at a u.n. ambassador who went on the sunday talk shows as a spokesperson for the administration giving,...
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i asked kelly ayotte yesterday, she said, no, it was on the substance. have we had others who have gone on sunday television talk shows, made mistakes and not punished as severely as susan rice? >> i think there is a double standard, not necessarily with punishment for the talk shows, because i don't think this is about comments that were basically right that she made on sunday talk shows. i think this is about a lot of other things including a personality that even susan rice's friends say can be abrasive, sharp elbowed. all sorts of things that i think it's easier for men to get away with even men in diplomatic jobs, than for women. and i think women are in an odd role those days. women in the senate, i'm going to be writing about this for a column in tomorrow's paper, the women in the senate talk about how women are terrific at being collegial and getting things done and learning how to cooperate. if you're a woman like susan rice who is not necessarily in that kind of female nurturer collegial role but sort of elbows out, tough player, i think you ac
i asked kelly ayotte yesterday, she said, no, it was on the substance. have we had others who have gone on sunday television talk shows, made mistakes and not punished as severely as susan rice? >> i think there is a double standard, not necessarily with punishment for the talk shows, because i don't think this is about comments that were basically right that she made on sunday talk shows. i think this is about a lot of other things including a personality that even susan rice's friends...
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and kelly ayotte not so much. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before. >> i want to say i'm more troubled today, knowing, having met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice. >> senator ayotte seized on one of the headlines from the meeting that ams about dor rice apparently admitted she was wrong. >> clearly the impression that was given, the information given to the american people, was wrong. in fact, ambassador rice said today absolutely it was wrong and that's troubling to me as well why she wouldn't have asked i'm the person that doesn't know anything about this and going on every show. >> richard wolffe, reader of tea leaves that you are. >> yes. >> how much of this is because president obama would like to see susan rice as his secretary of state? >> well, let's say 50% and -- >> you're putting it at a fair 50. >> 50% and the other 50% susan rice is a proxy for this president. i've said it again and will say it again there has been a witch hunt for every
and kelly ayotte not so much. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before. >> i want to say i'm more troubled today, knowing, having met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice. >> senator ayotte seized on one of the headlines from the meeting that ams about dor rice apparently admitted she was wrong. >> clearly the impression that was given, the...
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they had to throw kelly ayotte out there with no foreign policy experience because even they understand going after this woman, going after this -- another african-american official in the obama white house, i know it's unpopular to say, but they seem to have a pattern that isn't helpful politically so i don't see what the margin is. >> senator ayotte has political m a bigg ambition. >> and she's a woman. >> our power panel, my thanks to all three of you. >>> we are waiting for remarks from president obama who is expected to speak from the white house within the half hour. the president surrounded by middle-class americans as he intends to build up his support to avert the impending fiscal cliff. >> the mandate that the president has, and i think he said this after the election, is to protect the middle class and help people enter and stay in the middle class. >> mitch mcconnell once again blasted the president for what he called campaigning. >> the election's over. he won. congratulations. we've got a hard deadline here, however. and it's still -- he's still out on the campaign trail k
they had to throw kelly ayotte out there with no foreign policy experience because even they understand going after this woman, going after this -- another african-american official in the obama white house, i know it's unpopular to say, but they seem to have a pattern that isn't helpful politically so i don't see what the margin is. >> senator ayotte has political m a bigg ambition. >> and she's a woman. >> our power panel, my thanks to all three of you. >>> we are...
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she said it in a private meeting with him, with ayotte, and senator graham, that she was wrong in that assertion but that was the information she was given by the intelligence community. she, you know, put out an olive branch, if you will, and they simply broke it into three pieces and collectively flogged her with it. you know, i have great respect for my colleague dana mill barng, but he wrote in a column in mid-november that she was unfit or not well equipped for this job, and one of the reasons that he put forth was her answers in those talk shows on sunday mornings. and so i think that the issue for us here today isn't what she said in those talk shows but how she's acquitted herself over the course of her career. stanford, oxford, rhodes scholar. if i'm in the position of having an equipped, educated, and have the experience to do this job but then called unqualified, called unequipped because maybe i seem like a bull in the china shop for stating a strategic position for which i believe is strongly right, then for some reason then i'm i will equipped for the job. it's as if they
she said it in a private meeting with him, with ayotte, and senator graham, that she was wrong in that assertion but that was the information she was given by the intelligence community. she, you know, put out an olive branch, if you will, and they simply broke it into three pieces and collectively flogged her with it. you know, i have great respect for my colleague dana mill barng, but he wrote in a column in mid-november that she was unfit or not well equipped for this job, and one of the...
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i think that the performance of john mccain and lindsey graham and now kelly ayotte, is just mostly political theatre as it relates to susan rice. yes, there are legitimate questions about benghazi globally for american diplomats, but the susan rice thing has a sort of measure of insanity about it and really is a kind of thing lawrence and we've seen it a million times. sometimes, washington goes crazy over what is essentially a non substantive high school orkt and i think that's what the thing with susan rice is. acknowledging the legitimate issues, susan rice is not the issue. definitely not the issue. if i were susan rice, i'd be mad at the press people for sending her out there the way she did. they handed her a bad piece of paper, look a good soldier, she went out there and said it on five channels. it's not her fault. >> take the last word on this. >> i don't agree, but more importantly, this is the sad demise of john mccain, who used to be someone that i think people looked up to and respected and increasingly, he looks small and petty and it's very sad to see it happening. >> thank yo
i think that the performance of john mccain and lindsey graham and now kelly ayotte, is just mostly political theatre as it relates to susan rice. yes, there are legitimate questions about benghazi globally for american diplomats, but the susan rice thing has a sort of measure of insanity about it and really is a kind of thing lawrence and we've seen it a million times. sometimes, washington goes crazy over what is essentially a non substantive high school orkt and i think that's what the thing...
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. >> senate republican kelly ayotte, who has threatened to block a rice nomination, joins us ahead. and powerball fever sweeping the nation. the jackpot now jumps to $500 million. the second highest in lottery history. what would you do with your winning ticket. >> i would take my entire family on a cruise around the world. >> a sports car for me. >> aston martin. >> i'll pinch myself. >> i would pinch myself too. good day, i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. thanks for joining us. you can bet this is not the way mitt romney had hoped to get to the white house. instead of measuring the drapes in the oval office he'll be the president's guest for lunch. their first meeting since that last debate. joining me now for our daily fix, chris cizilla, msnbc contributor and managing editor of post politics.com and from "usa today" susan page. what do you think is on the menu? >> some people on twitter when i tweeted out suggest crow might be served. look, this is, i think, there's no press coverage. this is not closed press. there is no press coverage. a private meeting between the two o
. >> senate republican kelly ayotte, who has threatened to block a rice nomination, joins us ahead. and powerball fever sweeping the nation. the jackpot now jumps to $500 million. the second highest in lottery history. what would you do with your winning ticket. >> i would take my entire family on a cruise around the world. >> a sports car for me. >> aston martin. >> i'll pinch myself. >> i would pinch myself too. good day, i'm andrea mitchell live in...
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so that's where i'm at but i haven't prejudged it. >> senator ayotte, thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you very much. >>> coming up, raw politics. the fiscal cliff debate shifts to campaign style tactics. the president planning to hit the road to tout his tax plan. i will speak with lobbyist grover norquist and senator dick durbin about what hangs in the balance next. with less chronic osteoarthritis pain. imagine living your life with less chronic low back pain. imagine you, with less pain. cymbalta can help. cymbalta is fda-approved to manage chronic musculoskeletal pain. one non-narcotic pill a day, every day, can help reduce this pain. tell your doctor right away if your mood worsens, you have unusual changes in mood or behavior or thoughts of suicide. antidepressants can increase these in children, teens, and young adults. cymbalta is not approved for children under 18. people taking maois or thioridazine or with uncontrolled glaucoma should not take cymbalta. taking it with nsaid pain relievers, aspirin, or blood thinners may increase bleeding risk. severe liver problem
so that's where i'm at but i haven't prejudged it. >> senator ayotte, thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you very much. >>> coming up, raw politics. the fiscal cliff debate shifts to campaign style tactics. the president planning to hit the road to tout his tax plan. i will speak with lobbyist grover norquist and senator dick durbin about what hangs in the balance next. with less chronic osteoarthritis pain. imagine living your life with less chronic low back pain....
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it was with senators lindsey graham and kelly ayotte and john mccain. >> they were upset. john mccain over the weekend backed up a little. >> he backed up. >> which is really cool. she went up and said i'm sorry. >> she did the brave thing and went right in there and said i want to address this. >> how did that work? >> she talked about her initial account of the attack. she explained to them that she was relying on faulty intelligence, faulty talking points from the intelligence communities. >> and they said? >> they said, you know what, we still don't get it. >> go to video. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. it is clear that the information that she gave the american people was incorrect. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed than i was before. if you don't know what happened, just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and you can say i don't want to give bad information. >> i am more troubled today knowing, having met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice.
it was with senators lindsey graham and kelly ayotte and john mccain. >> they were upset. john mccain over the weekend backed up a little. >> he backed up. >> which is really cool. she went up and said i'm sorry. >> she did the brave thing and went right in there and said i want to address this. >> how did that work? >> she talked about her initial account of the attack. she explained to them that she was relying on faulty intelligence, faulty talking points...
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nominated, are these some really choppy waters ahead based on what we've heard from senator collins, ayotte, graham, mccain and the like? >> undoubtedly yes, but i think it's totally unfair -- let me be very clear. i'm on the intelligence committee. what ambassador rice did is precisely what she should have done. she used the approved talking points from the intelligence community that were unclassified. she did not use classified information and that's precisely what she should do. she shouldn't use classified information. she is required in her position to use unclassified information. and that's precisely what she did. information provided to her unanimously by the intelligence community. to go after susan rice is totally and completely unfair. and those who are doing it repeatedly ought to back off. that is not where fault lies. >> senator conrad, great to have you with me. here to talk over some of the issues, ed schultz. ed, great to have you here. a lot to get into this morning as we talk about the fiscal cliff. erskine bowles says he thinks democrats and republicans are serious abou
nominated, are these some really choppy waters ahead based on what we've heard from senator collins, ayotte, graham, mccain and the like? >> undoubtedly yes, but i think it's totally unfair -- let me be very clear. i'm on the intelligence committee. what ambassador rice did is precisely what she should have done. she used the approved talking points from the intelligence community that were unclassified. she did not use classified information and that's precisely what she should do. she...
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capitol hill this week to discuss the incidents with senators john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly ayotte. rice initially blamed them on protests triggered by an anti-muslim film. the man behind that movie is speaking out about the backlash for the first time. he tells "the new york times" he has no regrets. he's back in prison after violating his probation on a bank fraud conviction. >>> new york city mayor bloomberg is asking congress for $9.8 billion to clean up the mess left behind by hurricane sandy. bloomberg says the cash is needed to pay for costs not covered by fema and insurance companies. wolf. >> thank you. >>> coming up we told you about a town in california mired in corruption charges that left taxpayers outraged. a town where the former police chief finagled a salary for himself of nearly half a million dollars. you won't believe what that former police chief is doing now. he wants more money from the city. we're keeping them honest, next. [ male announcer ] this is steve. he loves risk. but whether he's climbing everest, scuba diving the great barrier reef with sharks, or
capitol hill this week to discuss the incidents with senators john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly ayotte. rice initially blamed them on protests triggered by an anti-muslim film. the man behind that movie is speaking out about the backlash for the first time. he tells "the new york times" he has no regrets. he's back in prison after violating his probation on a bank fraud conviction. >>> new york city mayor bloomberg is asking congress for $9.8 billion to clean up the mess...
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by won't know until the investigation is completed and released. >> senator ayotte said when you're an ambassador to the united nations -- i want to get your thoughts on this. she said, look, you go well beyond unclassified talking points in your daily preparation responsibilities. i guess the implication being that she would have been aware of other things that were different or contradicted directly to what she went and said on television. does this cast any doubt on her story? general clark has made what i've heard from everybody who knows her that she is an incredibly honest and forthright person. >> well, i think there's a bigger question here, erin, and that's the credibility of the administration on these national security issues and whether they politicized a national security issue that led to the death of four americans. i mean, i do -- i don't agree that the american people were not misled on this. i don't know how five days afterwards, a senior official -- first of all, i don't understand why susan rice was in that chair as opposed to hillary clinton as u.n. ambassador, she
by won't know until the investigation is completed and released. >> senator ayotte said when you're an ambassador to the united nations -- i want to get your thoughts on this. she said, look, you go well beyond unclassified talking points in your daily preparation responsibilities. i guess the implication being that she would have been aware of other things that were different or contradicted directly to what she went and said on television. does this cast any doubt on her story? general...
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rice will sit down with senators john mccain, lindsey graham, and kelly ayotte. >> that should be fun. >> that could be really awkward. they all accuse her of misleading the country in her initial account of the attack. in recent days, senator mccain has softened his criticism, and rice insists that she was relying on talking points from the intelligence community. last night senator graham rejected her defense but says he's open to today's meeting. >> she asked to meet with us, and i will listen to what she has to say about her role in benghazi, but i can tell you this. the more i know about benghazi, the more upset i am that the consulate was even open on september 11th. when you look at the history and the reporting coming out of libya about the dangers, it should never have been open or heavily reinforced. after the attack, i think the story we were told about a spontaneous event caused by video where a mob turned into a riot is less credible than ever. >> smart of her to call the meeting. acting cia director michael morrell will accompany rice during today's meeting, fueling spec
rice will sit down with senators john mccain, lindsey graham, and kelly ayotte. >> that should be fun. >> that could be really awkward. they all accuse her of misleading the country in her initial account of the attack. in recent days, senator mccain has softened his criticism, and rice insists that she was relying on talking points from the intelligence community. last night senator graham rejected her defense but says he's open to today's meeting. >> she asked to meet with...
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you have senator john mccain, lindsey graham, kelly ayotte. she went to address concerns they have over statements the ambassador made over the u.s. mission in benghazi on september 11th that left ambassador chris stevens and three other americans dead. i want you to listen to what senator graham, republican south carolina, here, said immediately after the meeting ended. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before that the 16 september explanation about how four americans died in benghazi, libya, by ambassador rice, i think does not do justice to the reality at the time, and in hindsight clearly was completely wrong. but here's the key. in real time, it was a statement disconnected from reality. >> and now here is senator ayotte. >> i want to say that i'm more troubled today, knowing -- having met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice, because it's certainly clear from the beginning that we knew that those with ties to al qaeda were involved in the attack on the embassy. and clearly the impression that was given,
you have senator john mccain, lindsey graham, kelly ayotte. she went to address concerns they have over statements the ambassador made over the u.s. mission in benghazi on september 11th that left ambassador chris stevens and three other americans dead. i want you to listen to what senator graham, republican south carolina, here, said immediately after the meeting ended. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before that the 16 september explanation about how four americans...
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rice will sit down with senators john mccain, lindsey graham, and kelly ayott. in recent days, senator mccain has softened his criticism as rice insists that she was relying on talking points from the intelligence community. last night, senator graham rejecting her defense but says he's open to today's meeting. >> she asked to meet with us and now we'll listen to what she has to say about her role in benghazi. the more i know about benghazi, the more upset i am that the consulate was even open on september 11th. when you look at the history and the reporting coming out of libya about the dangers, it should never have been open or heavily reinforced. after the attack, i think the story we were told about a spontaneous event caused by video where a mob turned into a riot is less credible than ever. >> she reportedly called the meeting. seems like a smart move. what do you think? >> well, i think it's a smart move for john mccain to take the meeting. they're boxed in. this is not a fight they want right now. it was a stupid fight to pick. they put themselves into a
rice will sit down with senators john mccain, lindsey graham, and kelly ayott. in recent days, senator mccain has softened his criticism as rice insists that she was relying on talking points from the intelligence community. last night, senator graham rejecting her defense but says he's open to today's meeting. >> she asked to meet with us and now we'll listen to what she has to say about her role in benghazi. the more i know about benghazi, the more upset i am that the consulate was even...
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i think john mccain, lindsay gram, kelly ayotte understand it was not susan rice's responsibility but she was the one -- even though she had nothing to do with it, the administration sent her out to paragraphrot talking points that were inaccurate. there were breaches of security, pleas for help that went unanswered, breaches of protocol and four dead americans that were representing all of us. what john mccain and lindsey graham wants are answers. today is a good path, good step toward getting some answers and a step in the right direction. >> so, maria cardona, our democratic strategist, we just had an election. people want democrats and republicans to get along. susan rice clearly is embattled, the source of controversy. should president obama still nominate her as his secretary of state? >> i think he should, if that's what he believes is the best thing for the country. look, she has been an outstanding public servant both at the u.n. and serving under the clinton administration in a national security role. there's no question about that. and i think what -- i actually applaud sus
i think john mccain, lindsay gram, kelly ayotte understand it was not susan rice's responsibility but she was the one -- even though she had nothing to do with it, the administration sent her out to paragraphrot talking points that were inaccurate. there were breaches of security, pleas for help that went unanswered, breaches of protocol and four dead americans that were representing all of us. what john mccain and lindsey graham wants are answers. today is a good path, good step toward getting...
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weeks ago when republicans first started her chief critics, senators mccain, graham, and eyo eyout ayotte, they said they didn't think it was even remotely possible for republicans to -- especially in the words of this one source, old white men to block the nomination of an african-american woman. they didn't think that was plausible. a few weeks later hearing from other republicans and doing the math, i'm not so sure that's true. i'm not so sure that it's true that democrats would be able to get the votes. but, again, that's why the susan collins' comment is so critical. as we talked about, she's one of the few remaining moderates and unlike other republicans who tend to get more political, she tries not to. >> dana, i've got to let you go. we're running out of time. any chance that susan rice would come back and talk to more republicans or is this done. >> reporter: we were told that she was going to have several meeting. i'm sure she would likely come back. >> dana, thank you very much. appreciate it. >>> after shelling out billions of dollars in fine, bp just got slapped with more tou
weeks ago when republicans first started her chief critics, senators mccain, graham, and eyo eyout ayotte, they said they didn't think it was even remotely possible for republicans to -- especially in the words of this one source, old white men to block the nomination of an african-american woman. they didn't think that was plausible. a few weeks later hearing from other republicans and doing the math, i'm not so sure that's true. i'm not so sure that it's true that democrats would be able to...